Design Changes and Costs

As we’ve been planning the specific layout of the house, we’ve made some additions and changes, such as some exterior features, like a water trough, a wider sidewalk around the house (marciapiede), an interior stone wall, added electrical and network, a window in the stairway, and some wall niches (nicchie).

Here’s Kevin’s summary, with pictures of some examples of the additions.

design details for a house in Le Marche
Ground floor and exterior additions
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Design additions to a new farmhouse in Le Marche
First floor design additions
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Of course, there is some added cost for these items. Kevin presented the following list. We need to look and see what, if anything, we’d like to cut out.

TIPO | ITEM
Costo | Cost
(Euro)
Long wall living room stone faced€1,630
Add pigeon roosts external wall 4-6160
Builder works for main entry door with arch Iron grill to choose, will be outside this budget205
Construct wider sidewalks at back end of house, go from 80 to 140cm + 1/2 moon terrazzo at master Bedroom + wider sidewalk at wood store include works, materials, tile setting3,745
Build 4 niches300
Carpentry work nichesTBD
Sliding door et al for 1stfloor storage CarpenterTBD
Build works for added window at stairs100
Wall exits for A/C x 3 - Mobile units to recommend...outside this budget150
Wood store in stone with coppi tiles1250
Add 3 bathroom ventilation fans, SILENT models Units and Associated Works600
Add 6 external water points + drains Note Faucet Styles etc. are to choose, costs Outside this budget1200
Install Fountain outside, fountain cost Will be based on choice, outside this budget Cost of pump and electrical connections for fount.235
Install country sink outside, sink cost Will be based on choice, outside this budget50
Basic build works for recessed spots220
Electrical and internet plan needs above STANDARD1,690
€11,535
Plus carpentry works
Plus IVA
Electrical cost breakout

One big cost addition is in the electrical plans and costs over the amount built into the preliminary budget. I asked Kevin to break out those costs so I can see if there is any potential for savings.

Additions
Euro
Hard Wired Fire Alarms - 7490
Outlets Over Base – 990
Light Points Over Base – 8135
Irrigation System Predisposed105
Kitchen Ice Machine55
Floor Mount Plugs - 3120
Pump Fountain145
Associated Labor (discounted from actual of 850)550
Total Electrical Additions1690€
Cost Update

I asked about reducing the biggest cost, the 3745€ for the marciapiedi. Most of the incremental cost is for the areas in back outside the French doors. It seems wrong to have a narrow sidewalk there, so we’ll need to just absorb this cost somewhere.

We eliminated 2 of the “water points” (faucets) to save 600€ and one smoke detector at 70€ and Kevin was able to get the cost of the wood store down from 1250€ to 850€, so our adjustments will “save” 1070€ from the list of additions.

In total, the additions will hit the budget in these areas:

  • Builder budget: 8890€
  • Materials (tiles): 1675€

So final additions total 10,465€. Plus those TBDs for the carpentry.

Lighting It Up

When I was in Marche a few weeks ago, I asked Kevin about the electrical plan. I had assumed the architect or geometra would handle this and we’d comment. (The architect and geometra have overlapping roles. The architect has more formal training and certification, and seems to handle the big picture elements of the design. The geometra handles the details, plus acts as a surveyor and project manager.)

light-bulb-referencing-home-electrical-planHe told me that I ought to make the first pass at an electrical plan. I was happy to take this on, as I wanted to avoid some shortcomings in our current house. (This house was built in 1946, so some of the weaknesses, such as outlet placement, remain today. Also, an addition was put on in 1997, which was done without paying attention to some details. For example, we have light switches behind doors which could have been avoided by hinges on the other side or switches on the other wall.)

Kevin gave me a couple of examples of plans past clients had done. I thought they were a bit incomplete in that they left out some important details, like switches in general or the connection of which switches to which circuit.

My goals for our plan were to make sure we have enough outlets and in the right places, having logical switch locations and connections, and appropriate built in lighting. (One thing I wanted to avoid was hanging lights in the main room, as it seemed to me they’d look awkward hanging out by themselves.)

I also wanted to be sure we’d have good wireless internet coverage throughout the house.

I’ve probably been through five or six iterations of the plan, which included the network plan, which I wrote about before. I’m fairly pleased with the plan as it stands right now.

I tried to meet our goals by including an outlet on almost every wall inside, using quad outlets in high use areas like the office and kitchen, and waterproof outlets for outside; clearly showing switches and the connections to circuits and using three-way switches and dimmers as appropriate; building in recessed lighting in the main room ceiling and in the walls in the stairway; and providing connections for outside elements like landscape lighting and irrigation system wiring.

I’m also wanting to have a separate ice making machine, as Italians don’t use much ice and refrigerators don’t have ice makers, so I specified a special outlet for it. (I’m not sure if I can make the ice machine happen. Those I can find online that would work in Italy might be too big or too expensive.)

I considered, briefly, the idea of a “smart home” with special outlets and switches and smartphone control, but I found it’s pretty expensive and when I thought about it, would be more for fun than useful. We can just use timers instead of computer controls.

electrical plan for a new house in Le Marche
Electrical plan
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When Kevin saw this, he called it, “one BEEFY electrical plan.”

He’s off this week to discuss the plan with the network and electrical specialists. I’m hoping that the plan won’t be too expensive to implement. I’m counting on the incremental cost of a few outlets and switches as being fairly small.

Wiring for Wireless

Once we have the house connected to the Internet, we need to get a good wireless signal throughout the house. My plan is to use a router connected to the modem by a cable. The router will be in the office and have wireless capability so we can connect laptops, phones, iPads, etc.

My concern is that because of the thick concrete construction, the wireless signal from this router won’t cover the whole house. So I want to connect the router via cable to two access points, one in the main room of the ground floor and one on the top floor.

An access point is very similar to a router. (In fact, many routers can be used as access points.) It takes an Internet signal and connects devices to the network, either by wire or by wireless. Since it’s hard wired to the router, it gets a strong signal to broadcast, not one that is reduced by the structure.

On the electrical plan, I included the needed wiring and outlets. When I sent it to Kevin, he was a little confused about the particular outlets and cables we need to use. I mentioned an RJ-45 connector and CAT6 cables, but my explanation wasn’t clear.

So I made a network diagram and wrote a written explanation of all of this.

Network plan Click image to enlarge and see network description
Network plan
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I’m hoping the installation of of this all goes as planned, as how could we live these days without a good wireless network?

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Getting On the Air

One important “must have” is a good, fast internet connection. A cable connection or even a DSL connection over a phone line isn’t possible, since the wires don’t seem to be accessible from our property. So we’ll need to rely on some over-the-air service, either satellite or ground-based.

From what I hear, Marche has pretty good coverage provided by a group of companies, one company per province. The company that handles our area, Macerata, is Fidoka.

imageThese companies use transmitters and receivers mounted on towers on the hilltops. So to get a signal, you need a line-of-sight to one of the towers. Since our property slopes downward, facing the hills across the valley, I’m expecting and relying on the towers to the west of us. I can see some sort of towers on these hills, so I hope they are used by Fidoka.

Their website is a bit vague, but it seems like we can get a good connection for about 25€ a month. That’s less than the $45 we pay Comcast right now. (The more you pay, the faster the connection, so we can upgrade if we need to.)

So, if all goes well, we just have to have Fidoka install the antenna and give us the modem. Then we’ll have a connection.

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